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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  Sea Breeze

  Next Summer's convention, I expect a Flash of Light Public Address Talk on this timely information:

  MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER SHAVE

  What a loving provision from the Governing Nannys.
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  New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.

  they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".

  yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.

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  Sea Breeze

  Stan, It was a process. I'm sort of a contrarians' contrarian. It was about the only tool I had after leaving the WT, since trust in God, my parents, elders, GB, were all destroyed, once I reached my vomit limit with WT lies. So, I believed in myself and rode that horse as far as it would take me. It was an improvement, but not nearly enough, for me.

  A university education left me disillusioned. It was really my last hope, I thought. I couldn't figure out why my atheist philosophy professor couldn't seem to teach anything that didn't have something to do with destroying a "Christian" argument. I had already concluded (based on my JW experience) that Christian leaders were at the very least senile, infantile, ignorant and quite possible criminally liable. Why would he stoop so low as to even dignify a Christian argument?
  
  I didn't want to hear anything that had the word Christian attached to it, even if it was a polemic. But, slowly, and ironically, I began to get used to Christian arguments from him. I had never heard anything like it from the WT. My sociology professors were mostly Marxists, which as a businessman I knew to be incredibly unfair and little more than a race to the bottom of poverty. I sensed that the philosphy and sociology professors were on some sort of Jihad against Christianity. I detected that I was being manipulated and indoctrinated.

  In time, I reluctanly tried a Methodist church for a few months. Ended up on a homosexual date unbewnowst to me. Then tried a non-denominational church. Ended up getting jilted by a church volunteer leader girl who was in a sexually active relationship with another volunteer man who wasn't interested in marriage. I didn't see much biblical Christianity in either church.

  So, I decided to just be a good person and live my life. Someone eventually showed me many scriptures that a person simply will never hear at the Kingdom Hall.

  It became apparent to me that people from different backgrounds were all using similar selective information techniques to steer attention away from the simple basic message of the NT. I found this to be very curious. Being a contrarian's contrairian, this naturally pointed me in the right direction.

  It is a skill that I naturally have and it has allowed me to start from scratch 2 multi-million $ businesses and one that produced around 700K per yer from my home in my 40 + years as an entrepreneur.

  Then, one day I suddenly recalled two experiences that I had 17 years previously while pioneering that I will never forget. I will relate one of them:

  I knocked on an apartment door and an unusually beautiful woman came to the door and invited me in. She appeared to be interested in what I had to say. Started a study on the spot. Her husband attended the study off and on. He appeared to be about 5 years younger than her with a mullet haircut. He was a landscaper. The situation was a little unusual. This woman was straight off the pages of Glamour Magazine, unbelievable gorgeous, even after two kids and little to no make up. Usually women like that are millionair trophy wives.
  
  She had a naturally whispy , kind voice and gently challenged me here and there. After about 4 or 5 studies, when we were alone she asked me if I wanted to know what Jesus had done for her? I said sure.

  She appeaered to be the perfect wife and mother, so I was interested in what she had to say. Looking at her blond hair, and perfect facial features as she spoke, I began to get pulled into her life story, which she related in some detail. She began to tell me how she was abused as a child and how she had no one that she could trust, how she would hide from her abuser. She related how she grew up and turned to drugs to help her cope with an impossible situation, even needle type drugs. She was "strung-out" was her phrase. She said that for years, she was a very high-dollar prostitute (3k per night in today's money).

  She got to the end of herself and Jesus came into her life and saved her. She said that he got her off the drugs, got her out of the prostitution ring, gave her, her dignity back then provided her with a loving husband and two beautiful children. She spoke of Jesus like he was real, like he was sitting right there with us, like he was her best friend, like she really loved him.
  
  I was very shook up by her testimony and was speechless. I am a natural born salesman by nature. Because of that I knew that I had NOTHING in my bookbag that could compare with what she had. She had a superior product than what I was peddling. I had encountered a power far beyond anything I had ever experienced before. I got the hell out of there shortly after that and never went back. I just couldn't process the power that I had encountered at the time. But, I never forgot it.

  It wasn't until decades later, suddenly one day, that the Lord revealed to me that she was the one who was studying with me. She was being compassionately obedient to his leading. She went way out of her way, (probably had to deal with her husband too so that he would agree to the unusual situation) just to be able to get me to listen to her testimony with an open mind.
  
  I have my own rescue story to tell. But, in short, it is the raw power of God to change lives and to heal that caused me to become a Christian. Once you encounter it, Jesus becomes more real than your own mother.
  
  
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  New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.

  they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".

  yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.

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  Sea Breeze

  Vidiot,

  I wasn't a biblical anything for 8 years after leaving the WT. Started off a pretty solid agnostic.

  TonusOH,

  That's great news! Have you heard of the Dawkins Delusion published by Banter & Twaddle?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQgmRiHt9BI&ab_channel=ReuvenGoldstein
  
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  Sea Breeze

  
  

  Ole' rubber face could use a little cover on that turkey neck.
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  Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

  'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

  'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

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  Sea Breeze

  I'm fine with the idea that it is hypocritical to celebrate Christmas while not believing in god.

  TonusOH, I appreciate your honesty. Thank you.
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  New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.

  they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".

  yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.

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  Sea Breeze

  SeaBreeze Acts 2:32 says God resurrected him.

  @enoughisenough - Exactly, that is how he did it. In John 2: 19 Jesus predicted that he would provide a sign to the Jews so dramatic, that only God could do it. It was a feat that no one has ever before or since duplicated. In John 10: 17-18 Jesus predicts that he would perform the same feat, although for slightly different reasons.

  The fact that there is no evidence that he resurrected himself.

  @TonusOH - Just pretend that there was evidence for a moment; do you think you would trust Jesus with your eternity? In other words, would a self-resurrection from the dead be enough of a demonstration for you to trust him?
  
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  Unacceptable type/antitype for JW'S.....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  .........because it would cancel out their "upper & lower class christians" fairy story - aka the anointed & non-anointed.. antitype: the fleshly nation of israel and exodus foreigner converts were participants of the mosaic covenant.. type: christianity - the israel of god ("spiritual israel") and gentile converts became participants in the new covenant..

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  Sea Breeze

  In my understanding, the two class system was made from whole cloth by da Judge.

  Russell taught the two-class system before Rutherford did.
  
  
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  New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.

  they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".

  yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.

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  Sea Breeze

  @ Vidiot

  SeaBreeze is one of those rare XJWs who are still Biblical literalists.

  To the contrary. I fully intended in never stepping foot in any church again after I left the WT and attended university. Learned how to be able to spot deception, indoctrination, inconsistencies and irrationality a little bit better than before, especially my own. Still a work in progress.
  
  
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  Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

  'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

  'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

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  Sea Breeze

  By the way--Seabreeze --are you in the UK ?

  No, but I geeked out for hours and hours at the British Museum recently. Amazing country with an amazing history. I am from the country of Texas. Dad is Scots / Irish descent from the borderlands area. Ancestors sometimes were on the side of England, sometimes Scotland - depending on which way the winds were blowing from what I understand. Mom is Sicilian.

  BTTT - So, here's a question: If it is not hypocritical to celebrate God's birthday while saying to yourself that he doesn't exist, what is an example of hypocrisy that an atheist could engage in, if any?

  If a person honestly looks at the claims that Jesus made, there are only three conclusions that a person can logically come to. He was the world's greatest Liar, Lunatic, or Lord. But a good man is not one of the options that Jesus left us with.
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  New Study: Mars Once Was Completely Covered in Oceans

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "the new study indicates that the oceans that covered the entire planet in water were at least 300 metres deep.

  they may have been up to one kilometre deep.".

  yet, some secularists say they are sure that the earth was never completely flooded with water above the tops of mountains as described in genesis.

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  Sea Breeze

  @TonusOH

  What is it about resurrecting oneself from the dead that is insufficient for you to trust him?

  It's a fair and simple enough question. What do you think?